TarValon.Net Members’ Favorite Wheel of Time Moments!

Please note: This article contains MAJOR spoilers for the entire Wheel of Time series!

We, in the Wheel of Time community of TarValon.Net, have been living with the books for a long time. Many people have read the books multiple times; and each time, there are some moments in the story that really stand out. Some are big and story-changing, some not so much, but we still love them. They might have to do with a favorite character of yours, or it might be a moment in the books that made a certain character your favorite! 

We asked the members of TarValon.Net to share some of their favorite moments from the books and now we would like to share them with everyone else! 

These are not ranked in any particular way, but just scenes and chapters that people find most interesting and worth mentioning.

It will come as no surprise to anyone probably, that the most loved moment has to do with… Nynaeve before the Last Battle!

Spoilers for book 11 Knife of Dreams:

“Do you recognize this?” she said, fishing a leather cord from the neck of her dress. 

His breath caught, and he stretched out a hand, brushed a finger across the heavy gold signet ring on the cord. Across the crane in flight. How had she come by this? Under the Light, how? “I recognize it,” he told her, his voice suddenly hoarse. 

“My name is Nynaeve ti al’Meara Mandragoran. The message I want sent is this. My husband rides from World’s End toward Tarwin’s Gap, toward Tarmon Gai’don. Will he ride alone?”

Second most often referenced scene has to do with a very surprising revelation:

Spoilers for book 12 The Gathering Storm:

“Hello, Egwene,” Verin said, taking a sip from a steaming cup of tea. “My! I was beginning to wonder if I’d have to break into that cell of yours in order to speak with you.” 

Egwene shook off her shock. Verin? When had the woman returned to the White Tower? How long had it been since Egwene had seen her? “There isn’t time right now, Verin,” she said, quickly opening the small locker that contained her extra dress. “I have work to be about.” 

“Hmm, yes,” Verin said, taking a calm sip of her tea. “I suspect that you do. By the way, that dress you are wearing is green.”

We all must agree that the chapter that follows this scene is very surprising and very sad. 

Many members (me included) find a part of the fourth book The Shadow Rising really interesting and it’s one of our favorites! And that is – walking alongside Rand through the glass columns of Rhuidean – forward, but back in time! 

Equally interesting is another character’s visit through the glass columns.

Spoilers for book 13 Towers of Midnight:

Aviendha goes through the columns for a second time, but instead of seeing the past of the Aiel, she sees their future.

Mat is known as many people’s favorite character, so of course there are multiple favorite moments of his that the members really like. 

Spoilers for the Dragon Reborn book 3:

Mat defeating Galad and Gawyn with only a quarterstaff, after being healed from the Shadar Logoth dagger

“Who was the greatest blademaster of all time?” 

From the throats of dozens of students came a massed bellow. “Jearom, Gaidin!” 

“Yes!” Hammar shouted, turning to make sure all heard. “During his lifetime, Jearom fought over ten thousand times, in battle and single combat. He was defeated once. By a farmer with a quarterstaff. Remember that. Remember what you just saw.”

Spoilers for book 13 Towers of Midnight:

Mat, alongside Thom and Noal entering the Tower of Ghenjei, rescuing Moiraine, winning the game of “Snakes and Foxes” and Jain Farstrider earning his place along the Heroes of the Horn. 

Some people also have favorite moments from New Spring! For example:

  • Moiraine’s testing, and Moiraine and Siuan getting raised to Aes Sedai
  • The Prophecy that started it all: “He is born again! I feel him! The Dragon takes his first breath on the slopes of Dragonmount! He is coming! He is coming! Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like the thunder! He burns like the sun!”

All of the books are filled with amazing scenes, battles, witty sayings, romantic gestures, there are so many to choose from. Write us a comment which one is a favorite of yours, if it’s not mentioned here. 

Come join the forums and discuss some of your favorite moments with the rest of us! 

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TVTT SDS Edition – San d’ma Shadar Highlight

San d’ma Shadar Company Highlight of November 2019

San d’ma Shadar or SDS for short is one of four TarValon.net Companies (Companies created and existing only at TarValon.Net) and was featured on our social media in November of 2019.

This is how their current Company Commander (the equivalent of Head of Ajah) described the Company.

And this quote from one of their Gaidin shows you the group’s character and what has brought them together.

However, if you know anything about our Tower bears, it is that they really enjoy and appreciate their rest. This is why we decided to share this great quote from one of their own:

Another great quote that we just couldn’t hold off sharing is :

Many Aes Sedai can agree to that!

The trivia that month had some pretty interesting questions regarding the SDS Company. Do you know which is the official SDS drink?

It is actually Don Julio 1942 tequila! Related to this, we also asked you if you knew:

Invited guests at TarValon.net are usually Senior members not connected to the Ajah or Company by a bond, but by invitation from that group. SDS have decided to call their Invited guests – Drinking buddies!

There was recently a class on SDS in our Classroom forum, you can check it out here: SDS Class.

And a fun fact that maybe some of you had missed!

Looks like someone had noticed!

Some Wheel of Time characters that the SDS Gaidin think will fit in with the Company are:

  • Uno Nomesta. Our SDS Gaidin feel that he embodies what they value in a warrior.
  • Al’Lan Mandragoran The bears feel that he embodies everything they value.
  • Elyas Machera – read the blog post here.

And check our the Library resources we have on SDS if you are interested here.

It is mentioned in the above article, but the San d’ma Shadar company have their own Headquarters in our Library, where you can check more information on them if you wish: SDS Headquarters.

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What I Missed — Reading the Great Hunt

Please note: this article contains spoilers for the entire Wheel of Time Series.

We all miss some little “easter eggs” when we read a book for the first time… even on the second time! I know I do! It is also true that everyone might notice different things while reading a book.


In this article I would like to discuss things I missed in my previous read of The Wheel of Time’s second book – “The Great Hunt.” My thoughts on the previous books can also be found on our blog: “New Spring” is here; and “The Eye of the World” has Part 1 and Part 2.


The first time I read the Great Hunt was back in 2006, so almost 15 years ago! My last re-read of this book was three years ago, and this was my third or fourth read of it. This makes it the second time I read it, since the finishing of the Wheel of Time series. It’s safe to say I am really excited to start re-reading the series again! I want to see what I’ve missed in my previous reads! Join me!



The Prologue to the Great Hunt at first glance doesn’t tell us that much in regard to moving the story forward, but it sets the stage very well for events that are coming in the main story in the book and even later.


The POV‘s in the Prologue is a man’s who the readers supposedly don’t know yet. He calls himself Bors, and so is he called by Ba’alzamon as well later. In Bors’ thoughts:


“Would the Great Lord of the Dark appear to them as a man? And masked, besides? Yet the Myrddraal, its very gaze fear, trembled and almost cowered where it stood in the figure’s shadow. The man who called himself Bors grasped for an answer his mind could contain without splitting. One of the Forsaken, perhaps. That thought was only a little less painful. Even so, it meant the Day of the Dark One’s return must be close at hand if one of the Forsaken was free.”

It’s interesting that the man Bors got to this conclusion so fast, while we see in the previous book that the main three boys do not even question Ba’alzamon’s words and appearance. However, later he continues thinking and calling the man “Great Lord”, which only blurs the reader’s mind about who this man actually is and if he really is the Dark One.


The Prologue to this book gives us other interesting tidbits some of which are not really resolved later in the books, for example –  where is this meeting held, is it a recurring meeting, and who were most of the people in attendance. Obviously, I believe, that this Prologue was intentionally written in such mystery, so as to being interesting and captivating to the reader.

Now, the main story of the Great Hunt continues one month after the end of the Eye of the World.

So, I would like to start with Chapter 1 – “The Flame of Tar Valon”. We see Rand and Lan doing their sword-practice at the top of a tower in Fal Dara. In this chapter Lan tells Rand the heron-marked swords’ history. Something that I noticed was the following:

“[…] when it was done, the Aes Sedai who still lived swore they would never again make a weapon for one man to kill another. Every Aes Sedai swore it, and every woman of them since has kept that oath.”

I cannot help but wonder if this is true and how did Lan learn this? Do Aes Sedai know where one of their Oaths truly comes from? And does it really come from this story? Interesting.


Also, Lan makes note that Rand’s sword is Aes Sedai made, making it more than 3000 years old. But if Lan’s sword is also Aes Sedai made, it should also be the same age, which makes me wonder when did it begin being called “[…] the sword of the kings of Malkier”? It must have been left from one of the old nations and could have become the sword of the first king of Malkier, when the country was first created. Also, if both swords were made by Aes Sedai, why does one carry the heron mark and the other does not? How did they decide which should be marked and which shouldn’t be? Is one wrought by a different material than the other and that’s why it has a mark on it? What did the heron symbolize back in that Age? It would be interesting to find some answers to those questions if RJ has actually left some hints along the way.


In the next few chapters, there were small details that have caught my attention better than the previous times I’ve read the book:


In Chapter 5 Siuan explains to Moiraine that the Hall wants to give her to the Reds for punishment. But… what punishment is that? What has Moiraine done? Has she gone against some law of the Tower that we don’t know of? Or was it because Moiraine is of Cairhienin roial blood that she is important to the Tower, so the Hall would like to have her there instead of running around in the world? My guess is that this is said for dramatic effect, since it’s not being mentioned later again.


Chapter 6 – The Trollocs and a Myrdraal have entered Fal Dara keep. Rand almost faces the Myrdraal himself, but Ingtar comes at this time and tell Rand to run away. Later Ingtar tells Rand the Myrdraal had gotten away. I sort of feel like Ingtar didn’t fight the Myrdraal at all, but let it escape the keep, even though he showed disappointment of not being able to fight it. 


Ingtar also tells Rand that there was no earlier order to not let anyone go out of the keep, even though Rand was told by two different people that there was such an order. This leads me to think that it was only Ingtar who could’ve given those orders, without lord Agelmar’s knowledge and everyone would think the order has come from lord Agelmar himself.


“Neither Ragan nor Tema would have made up something like that. And even if the Amyrlin Seat had given the order, Ingtar would have to know of it. So who? And how? He glanced sideways at Ingtar, wondering if the Shienaran was lying. You really are going mad if you suspect Ingtar.”


Yes, Rand was very close there for a second, but sadly, it didn’t look like there was a reason to suspect Ingtar at this point.


Chapter 7 – Moiraine hears Verin speak the Dark Prophecy written in Fal Dara’s dungeons, and she recognizes Isam’s name and thinks to herself that she shouldn’t tell Lan about this. I don’t think Isam is ever mentioned again in regards to Moiraine or Lan, but only from Perrin’s POV and I had never noticed that before.


Chapter 9 – Lan gives Rand one last lesson:


“There will come a time when you must achieve a goal at all costs. It may come in attack or in defense. And the only way will be to allow the sword to be sheathed in your own body.”

Sheathing the Sword. I remember reading this last time and thinking of the end of the book where Rand fights Ba’alzamon and let’s himself be wounded and that’s how he defeats Ba’alzamon. So, to some extent, it is a Foreshadowing.


But then… I remembered the Last Battle and how Lan defeated Demandred. I wonder if Jordan had planned this for Lan during the Last battle, or did he just mean this to happen only to Rand at the end of the Great Hunt. Whatever it is, it is a tidbit that I thought was interesting, while reading this passage.

Chapter 10 – The Hunt begins – The first night after the men leave Fal Dara, Rand opens his saddlebags intending to change his “fancy” coat, but only finds more like it:

“It’s these coats,” Rand growled, still staring at what he had unpacked. One coat was black, embroidered with silver thread, the other white worked in gold. Both had herons on the collars, and both were at least as ornate as the scarlet coat he was wearing. “The servants told me I had two good, serviceable coats in here. Look at them!”

Moiraine made certain that Rand appears as a noble, but she apparently hasn’t done that for the other two boys. It appears she doesn’t understand their importance yet, or hasn’t really thought of them as important, even though she clearly wanted Mat healed and separated from the dagger of Shadar Logoth.

And then in the next chapter, Moiraine sends Rand the Dragon banner and tells Ingtar that Rand will be second in command after him? Why would she do that? She knows how much Rand knows about battles, this seems like a very bad call this far into the story, but it could be that she believed that he will ta’veren his way into being a battle leader somehow.

Let’s jump to Chapter 23 – Testing. We all know Nynaeve’s testing for Accepted is very interesting, I personally listened to that chapter several times during my reread this time. There is something that stuck out to me however. I didn’t realize in the last test that Nynaeve actually remembers what is supposed to be her real life, she doesn’t give in to the arches’ magic. In the end she literally thinks to herself:


“Nothing has changed.” Her thoughts turned. “Nothing has changed. Egwene is alone in the White Tower. Rand will channel the Power and go mad. And what of Mat and Perrin? Can they take back any shred of their lives? And Moiraine, who tore all our lives apart, still walks free.”

Which leads to her wanting to return. Based on this decision, she decides to channel and :

“There had to be a way back still. Staring at where the silver arch had been, she tried to find some trace of it. There was nothing. […] She tried to picture the arch in her mind, to shape it and form it to the last detail, curve of gleaming metal filled with a glow like snowy fire. It seemed to waver there, in front of her, first there between her and the trees, then not, then there.”

This sounds to me that she may have read some weave residue of some sort, since she doesn’t really know what she is doing yet with the Power, we as the reader do not really get much information on what she is doing with it either. And because of this residue she is able to return back.

The question I am left with however is… have the Aes Sedai on the other side felt something? Both when the arch supposedly disappears and later it appears again? They seem to have been awaiting her when she finally steps out of it, so we can assume that they didn’t consider her failing the test.

Later in Chapter 32 – A Message from the Dark, lord Barthanes tells Rand he didn’t intend on delivering Padan Fain’s message, but decided to do it after all. It seems to me that this was more than Daes Dae’mar, it may have been more like a ta’veren tugging on him. Rand is already a very strong ta’veren, so it’s not impossible to assume that a good weave of the Pattern is for Rand to receive a message basically telling him where to go next.

Final musings come from Chapter 47 – The Grave Is No Bar to My Call, when Mat sounds the Horn of Valere and the Heroes of the Horn come to help Rand with the Seanchan.

“Down the billowing fog, as if it were the side of a mountain, rode shapes on horses. At first the dense mists hid more than that, but slowly they came closer, and it was Rand’s turn to gasp. He knew them. Men, not all in armor, and women. Their clothes and their weapons came from every Age, but he knew them all.”

Because of the mention of fog in the description, I had imagined the figures of the Heroes also in a white misty kind of way, but this time I realized that is never mentioned anywhere. I realized that the Heroes look like normal humans with color and everything. That’s why people say they’ve seen Arthur Hawking, but they never mention him looking as a ghost, like how I imagined him. Mind can sometimes play tricks on you if you don’t pay enough attention. :p

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My final thoughts on this book are that, surprisingly, even though the main events are happening rather slowly, the Great Hunt manages to reveal a big part of the world, lay the beginnings of plots happening in later books, and not so surprisingly, give more questions than gives answers to. But after all this is only the second book, the bigger revelations are yet to come!

And with this my reread of the Great Hunt ends. I cannot wait to start my re-read of the Dragon Reborn!

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TVTT Yellow Ajah Edition – Social Media Highlight

Please note: this article contains spoilers for the whole series

The Yellow Ajah Highlight for July 2020

The Yellow Ajah at TarValon.Net and the Yellow Ajah from the books were the highlight of July 2020 on our social media platforms.

The Yellow Ajah month began with sharing some amazing fanart of Nynaeve, our favorite Yellow from the books!

images of Nynaeve, character from the Wheel of Time

The talented artists are Manweri, Ariel Burgess, and SerenaR-art from DeviantArt. Thank you for creating these pieces!

And we also shared some fanart of Yellow Ajah Sisters, credited to the DeviantArt profiles of Asrath and DrowElfMorwen, respectively. Do you think they’ve captured the Yellow Sisters’ character well?

art of yellow ajah aes sedai

There is a clear purpose of the Yellow Ajah in the books, and of course, for some of trivia, we asked you what it is:

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Yes, we knew this was an easy one, the Yellows are known for Healing. But there is also more to them than just skill in Healing, just like this quote from Suana Sedai says:

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And there are also some similarities between the Yellow Ajah in the books and the Yellows at TarValon.Net. Sa’areah Sedai sums it up very well here:

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Because of the Yellows’ passion for healing and fixing problems, one can say they are also passionate for helping and fixing bigger issues, like Idine Sedai, who is passionate about social justice issues among others.

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Did you also know that there was a Yellow Sister from TarValon.Net featured in the books?

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Not many of you knew that, so we are very proud to say that a character was named after Niere al’Aman Aes Sedai and was seen in Towers of Midnight!

And of course, we cannot leave you without seeing some pretty Yellow Shawls!!!

two women with yellow ajah shawls on, hugging in one of the photos

For those of you interested in reading about Yellow themed blogs, here we have shared:

  • An article about Healing practices in the Westlands: read here

And if you are interested in learning more about the Yellow Ajah at TarValon.Net, you can visit their Headquarters in our Library here

DISCLAIMER: The backgrounds on some of the pictures shared on out social media represent TarValon.Net’s logos for the Yellow Ajah, and are property of TarValon.Net.

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TarValon.Net Wheel of Time Re-read – Book 4

 
Please note: This post contains spoilers for The Dragon Reborn
 
TarValon.Net’s Wheel of Time Re-read continues with Book 4 – The Shadow Rising!
 

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“The sling has been used. The shepherd holds the sword.”

One part of the Prophecies has been fulfilled! The Dragon has proved his rebirth by taking the Sword out of the Stone. 

Now we are all curious to see what he does next, what other Prophecies he will fulfill! Let’s read together the continuation… 

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TarValon.Net continues to host The Wheel of Time re-read before the start of the TV show this November! If you haven’t joined already, feel free to come and discuss everything Wheel of Time related with us on our forums!   
 
The TV series is coming soon to the small screen, but we have covered the books that supposedly would be shown in Season 1 (Rafe hinted that parts of book 1 and book 2 will appear in the first season).

Our re-read of The Dragon Reborn is ending next week (planned on Sunday, October 17), and we will continue immediately with The Shadow Rising on Monday, October 18th! The thread where we discuss common themes, plots and other interesting topics, can be found in the Book Discussions forums – here .
 
Each month we also post a summary of the discussion and the re-read on our blog. Feel free to check out the summaries for the months of August  and September
 
Blog posts and forum thread discussions CONTAIN SPOILERS for the entire series!
 
The re-read of the fourth book is planned to last for a total of eight weeks (STARTING OCTOBER 18, MONDAY, and lasting until December 12th). We will be happy to have you come on the forums and discuss your views, as well as other theories or questions you might have for the series! 

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